Idiot: "Don't use generative AI! Protect the artists' jobs!" Me: "Does your car have ETC?" Idiot: "? Of course it does"

Me: "By the widespread use of ETC, many toll booth workers lost their jobs. Did you protest back then?"

Idiot: "Well..."

Me: "You chose social convenience over the jobs of those workers. Do you have the right to protest against AI?"

Idiot: "Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

True

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The toll booth workers should just become artists

It doesn't matter if the toll booth workers lose their jobs to AI

By the way, I like the sound of "anti-AI"

Couldn't you come up with a better analogy?

The drivers who couldn't pay became the toll booth workers. It's a harsh place where they can only escape when the next person who can't pay comes along.

I lost my job at the toll booth and became an artist LOL
If I lose my job as an artist, maybe I'll aim to be a train station staff LOL

Talented Illustrator: "AI generation? I'm using it effectively."



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>>13
This
In the end, it's just a combination of images and photos picked up from the internet, so touch-ups are essential.
If you release it without touch-ups, people will scream about tracing and plagiarism, and you won't gain anything.

Automatic ticket gates also took away the jobs of the station attendants

To be honest, toll booth workers are just waiting in prefab huts

So, is it infringing on someone's copyright?

Even though fish are farmed nowadays, wild fish are still valued and appreciated, right?
The same should apply to art

Do you really need to use an analogy?

It was probably like this when photography was invented too

>>19
The caricature artists at tourist spots were wiped out

>>1
Those are low-end jobs
It's different from creators who have honed their talents and become professionals

>>20
Is there really that much of a difference?

>>23
There's a huge difference
Most jobs involve doing things others don't want to do in exchange for money, but making money by doing things others would pay to do is on a different level
Getting there requires exceptional talent and effort

On the other hand, toll booth workers are jobs that even people who have given up on normal studies can get

>>20
Isn't it just the low-end artists who will disappear this time too?

>>25
We're talking about low-end jobs, why are you talking about low-end within the job category?
You're getting too caught up in the words
Are you just trying to change the subject or are you an aspie who can't hold a proper conversation?

Artists aren't even necessary for humans

In Korea, the trendsetter of Japan, caricature artists are apparently trending

What artists have that AI doesn't

A human heart

For the majority who aren't interested in art, AI is fine, right

Was ETC created by stealing something from the toll booth workers?
Isn't this a bad analogy?

>>28
When humans practice drawing, they don't get permission from the illustrators they reference, right?

People keep talking about artists, but isn't it true that programmers are in trouble too?
Why is it only about artists?

The issue is about not including copyrighted material

Lately, I see this kind of thread every day

I see, it's the opinion of someone who looks down on the workers

>>35
I look down on low-end job workers, but not on artists

When photography became widespread, court painters lost their jobs

>>36
When electric lights became widespread, oil sellers lost their jobs, and when cars came out, horse-related jobs were wiped out

I read somewhere that since Nico Nico shut down, the anti-AI crowd has spilled out

While claiming a finished piece is out of the question,
I think it's fine if you separate the layers and ink it

Screen tones must be pasted by hand!
Digital submissions are a no-go!
Use drawing mannequins! Don't use 3D models!
Don't use AI parts!

Using examples from the field of art isn't helpful

A rare moment of logic LOL

Even without toll booth workers, ETC can be created and improved, but AI art generation can't be created or improved without artists.
If it were a self-sustaining ouroboros situation, there'd be no complaints, but it relies on consuming others' work while acting all high and mighty, it's laughable

>>47
Then the artists' jobs won't disappear even if AI becomes widespread

>>49
The lower tiers will almost vanish, but the top-tier and serious aspirants will remain
I don't know what will happen to AI that can't sustain itself without consuming others' work

During the peak of Touhou, it was said that the Touhou community was rife with tax evasion to the point where ZUN suggested they should pay taxes

Hey, are you taking a jab at me, a car enthusiast who held out for years without installing ETC???

I like that, I'm going to use it

Ban cars for taking away the jobs of horse messengers and carriages

It seems like you can even generate videos from a single image now
Even as a science enthusiast, the current development of AI is beyond my imagination and it's more terrifying than surprising

Cars wiped out the job of foot messengers

In this day and age, any illustrator who openly says they use AI is incompetent
They're either too naive or too foolish to realize that smart ones use it without saying so
If you keep pushing it, you might get sued for stealth marketing

AI collage artist

>>66
Do you know what collage means?

The current AI generation seems to get weird if it learns from AI-generated data
If both practical and hobbyist art shift to AI generation, what will happen when AI-generated data becomes prevalent?